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This is an extract taken from the latest CakeWatch podcast episode where Chris interviewed Ayo, Dami, Sim and Emma Jane whilst they were in Brussels on 16th and 17th of October meeting MEPs as part of the 12 strong #RemainerNow delegation.
Our friends at the Nottingham European Movement asked us if they could use our podcast to share a recording of their 'Brexit: What Next?' event with our listeners, and we bit their arm off! Enjoy this hour and a half panel discussion with these stone-cold Remain legends.
Ahead of next week's local elections in England, Steve and Chris wonder why Labour isn't doing better in the polls, what Labour's Brexit policy really is, and what Labour's strategists are smoking? Also: civic engagement, plastic toffs, and Lie(s) of the Week.
The wheels on the bus are coming off, coming off, coming off. Customs Union, Lie of the Week on the Swiss Border, and a thrilling new occasional segment. Brought to you by Milton Keynes European Movement's Day of Action 9 May 2018!
CakeWatch - Episode 12: Europe Day Special
09/05/2018
Taking a break from our usual format, we spend this week talking about the things we love about Europe. A lot of it is quite personal and, well... self-indulgent, so feel free to skip this one if it's not your cup of tea (yes that features).
CakeWatch - Episode 13: EEA No Way
16/05/2018
Chris and Steve examine a "Soft" Brexit: what is it, who benefits from it, what are its pros, what are its cons, and should we settle for it? (Spoiler: no we bloody should not!) Plus: follow-up to our Europe Day special, Lie of the Week, and Culture Corner.
This week, Steve and Chris are in conversation with Alyn Smith MEP about Brexit, devolution, subsidiarity, federalism, nationalism, and sweeties.
CakeWatch - Episode 15: The Blame Game
31/05/2018
Chris and Steve engage in some Berlaymontology and dissect the current state of negotiations on the UK's withdrawal. (sad face emoji)
CakeWatch - Episode 16: Citizens' Rights
06/06/2018
Steve and Chris discuss Citizens' Rights with Laura Shields of British in Europe. Plus, a rapidly cooling hot take on Labour's 'Norway Plus' amendment.
CakeWatch - Episode 17: A Very Brexit Coup
14/06/2018
Listeners are advised that this podcast contains very strong language from the very start, including scenes of an adult nature. Listener discretion is advised. / A hell of a week in Brexitland. We skim over it all before getting stuck into the way in which the House of Commons handled the Withdrawal Bill and the amendments proposed by the House of Lords. There is some swearing.
You May Not Aspire to Embiggenment! Leave disinfo tactics, that damp squib Grieve Rebellion, and our People's Vote March hangover.
Chris pops back with special guest host Nick Crosby to discuss another bonkers week in Brexit.
Steve and Chris record a pilot of their new podcast, CakeWatch. Issues covered: Nadine Dorries and misogyny; a weaponised civil service; Customs Union cakeism; the BBC; and #lieoftheweek coffee protectionism.
Steve is back but Chris is on paternity leave so stepping into the breach is Steve Analyst!
Three for the price of none: Steve, Chris, and Steve talk about how they feel.
Steve and Chris talk about a Final Say For All with Nicky James aka Bloke From Barnsley.
In which your hosts mock the ERG. We talk about the European Research Group and its unpublished policy proposals which, apparently, have significant flaws and, so we hear, may be widely mocked. Keep listening for an Easter Egg including a contribution from a very special guest.
How could a Peoples Vote happen and how should it be handled? Plus lunch with trade expert David Henig.
CakeWatch - Episode 25: Starmer Stormer
26/09/2018
A bit of follow-up on Armenian regulatory competences trade nerds, then it's straight into Salzburg OMG she didn't did she she did! and then Labour Conference and the thrill we felt when Starmer said what he said and the Conference did what it did.
Warning: this episode includes very strong language. Awesome citizen rights campaigner Tanja Bueltmann co-hosts this week's episode as we talk about her work on behalf of EU27 citizens in the UK, what it's like being a constant target of online and offline harrassment
We look ahead to next week's European Council and the Peoples Vote March on 20 October.
We leave the podcast dungeon and lug our recording equipment to a meeting room in the European Parliament where we chat with not one, not two, not three, but four MEPs about the Brexit endgame! This was a cracking conversation with political heavyweights so do not miss this one Remain nerds!
CakeWatch - Episode 29: Blood in the Water
30/10/2018
What do Chris and Steve A do while Steve B is away? Get stuck in to some proper trade nerdery, that's what. We discuss how the UK can realise its global trade ambitions, whether EU trade deals can be rolled over, and what a unilateral zero tariff regime would do to the country's bank balance. Rock & roll!
CakeWatch - Episode 2: He got the EU lurgie
14/02/2018
Steve and Chris discuss Brexit transition.
Chris is hosting solo this week and joined by special guest Garvan Walshe (yes we know he was already on Remainiacs grrr) for a chat about the so-called Irish backstop, Jeremy Hunt's brass-necked cakeism, and whether Anna Soubry is a Leninist. Plus: would Remaining really be a good thing? No I mean really?? Also: Thucydides!
CakeWatch - Episode 31: Not the Foggiest
14/11/2018
Steve is back and vaping hard (sorry for the background noises) while he outlines options for amending the bill to pass the Withdrawal Agreement and Chris listens in increasing bewilderment. We also discuss whether the UK has really been the disruptive force within EU structures that it's been made out to be in some quarters (OK these quarters).
Nick Crosby joins Chris to wonder whether and how the House of Commons might yet find a way to reject the Withdrawal Agreement and #StopBrexit. Also Hostile Environment Lady jumps the Lie of the Week queue.
CakeWatch - Episode 33: Baskets Case
29/11/2018
The Centre for European Reform is the UK's foremost think tank on matters European, and Ian Bond is its Director of Foreign Policy, so Chris is in his element this week discussing how Brexit might affect both UK and EU foreign policy. Featuring not one, not two, but three baskets.
CakeWatch - Episode 34: Dog's Brexit
06/12/2018
We start at the beginning with Chris and Laura putting the world to rights over kebabs and prosecco, and end in the middle of things as we join Steve, Steve, and Chris half way through a discussion of Tuesday's events in Westminster, where this leaves Brexit, and was the UK really such an obstacle anyway?
A throwback to the early days of the podcast in which Steve and Chris wind each other up into a state of high-pitched sweary indignation as they survey the carnage wrought by Brexit. Specifically, the importance of accuracy and honesty on the Remain side, negative and exceptionalist framing, government dishonesty and delusion, and car doors.
Theresa May's shocker at the European Council, and why it happened. Plus: Tony Blair, huh, what he isn't good for. And some home truths on what the Article 50 ruling means and what it doesn't mean. Finally, a few cracking Lies of the Week, and an absolute zinger as Tweet of the Year.
CakeWatch - Episode 37: Coping
10/01/2019
January can be a difficult month, and Brexit is not helping. Many of us find ourselves struggling to cope with the insecurity that Brexit is causing. In this episode, we look at how Brexit is making us feel and how we're dealing with those feelings. We also look ahead to The Convention, an event taking place in London on 11 January to prepare for a potential new referendum.
Chris and Tanja have no confidence in this government and reject its withdrawal agreement but more specifically talk about Brexit British attitudes towards Germany, where things stand for EU citizens as B-day approaches, and Brecht.
Dmitry Grozoubinski is our guest this week to talk about what the hell a "WTO terms deal" is(n't), and we weigh up the risks and chances of a disorderly Brexit. Plus easily the sexiest Lie of the Week ever.
CakeWatch - Episode 3: the 40 watt amplifier
24/02/2018
Steve and Chris discuss how EU membership is a multiplier for member states' foreign policy, and Brexit's impact on British global influence.
Episode 3a bonus material - Ask Cakewatch
We donned safety helmets and ventured forth into the archives to seek out our very first podcast, recorded one year ago on wax cylinder, and listen back to it to see whether anything has changed in the world of Brexit. Spoiler: it hasn't.
CakeWatch - Episode 41: Operation Badger
22/02/2019
Navel-gazing post-Remainiacs self-congratulation cut with road trip excerpts all amount to another week in the podcast that isn't about cake. We also reflect on the futility of TIG-related hope and the futility of unicorn-related Brussels tourism.
The first half is a look at the day's news from Westminster, where Corbyn now says he backs a referendum with Remain on the ballot, and where May now says she will call for a vote on whether to leave with no deal, or extend Article 50. Plus, more importantly, how the EU might feel about this.
CakeWatch - Episode 44: Cox Blocked
12/03/2019
So the government has lost the meaningful vote on the Withdrawal Agreement by a massive margin - AGAIN - and now what? Should we celebrate? How will Brussels react? What are the options for and chances of extending the Article 50 two year deadline?
CakeWatch - Episode 45: Erskineful
20/03/2019
Chris, Steve, and a gurgling kitchen sink discuss extensions and whether the neighbours might lodge an objection with the council.
CakeWatch - Episode 46: Narcissistic Pish
21/03/2019
We visit Alyn Smith MEP in his offices, surrounded by boxes, for what might be a farewell chat, and reflect on another absolutely hatstand day in Brexit's endgame. Theresa May ... asking for a short extension and managing to annoy everybody on all sides; and (at time of recording) we're hiding behind the sofa waiting for her latest excruciatingly awful podium address to the nation.
With only two days to go until UnBrexit Day, we try to survey the rapidly shifting landscape and chart a course for where we head next. It's an exciting and unexpected place to be with only two days to go until 29 March, but we are by no means out of the woods. Listen while our takes still have some residual warmth left.
Recorded on the evening of Wednesday 3 April, Steve and Chris discuss the failure of Meaningful Vote 3.0, Indicative Votes 2.0, and Theresa May's Road to Damascus moment (spoiler: it's not). How will the EU27 respond to her plan for a further short extension?
Correction to Cakewatch 49 on the d'Hondt system in EP elections in the UK
CakeWatch - Episode 49: Be An EU Citizen
16/04/2019
So we got another extension, to Halloween ... Also, how should we be approaching the European elections? Should we vote tactically? To what extent should we treat it as a proxy referendum for Remain v. Leave? How would this sit with our democratic responsibility as EU citizens to vote on a European platform?
CakeWatch - Episode 4: Stand Firm on Fudge
03/03/2018
Chequers Cake, Red Velvet Cake, international cake(ism), and a draft Withdrawal Agreement
Lie of the Week and Ask Cakewatch - bonus material for Episode 4
CakeWatch - Episode 50: Useful Idiots
24/04/2019
We D'hondt tell you how to vote in the European elections, but we hope our prolix chat about infighting and outfighting and tactics and principles and manifestos and candidates and choices and dilemmas has given you a helping, er, hondt.
CakeWatch - Episode 51: Pattern Recognition
30/04/2019
Chris is flying solo as host with guest Peter Wilding, aka @eurorealist, long-time Tory party insider, former head of the British Influence think tank, inventor of the dread word Brexit, and now a European Parliament candidate for Change UK.
CakeWatch - Episode 53: More Joy in Heaven
15/05/2019
Andy voted Remain but was not particularly engaged in politics. But something prompted him to become an activist and launch a huge and growing grassroots campaign providing a platform for people who voted Leave. / Chris finally does his homework on the Spitzenkandidat procedure.
CakeWatch - Episode 54: Denied My Vote
29/05/2019
Chris, Tanja, and Axel Antoni offer a first take on last week's European election and its aftermath before examining in a bit more detail what led to the disenfranchisement of many EU citizens who were denied their vote, and what can be done about it.
CakeWatch - Episode 55: In Medias Res
12/06/2019
Ancient historian Katie Low joins Chris to talk about why ancient history has so much to teach us about modern Brexit. Will Brexit be the UK's Sicilian Expedition? (Yes.) Is Boris Johnson the modern Alcibiades? (Sort of.) Is Jacob Rees Mogg a modern Cicero? (No.) Is Jeremy Corbyn the modern Julius Caesar? (No but Seumas Milne might be.) With a side order of griping at British educational elitism.
CakeWatch - Episode 56: Montagegate
25/06/2019
Chris and Steve Analyst discuss 'montagegate', in which Steve documents selective editing of news footage by the BBC to give the false impression that Leavers and Remainers alike said ahead of the referendum that voting to leave the EU would mean voting to leave the Single Market. This is not true.
Former Tory Party insider Peter Wilding is back on an historic day for his old party and for the UK. We reflect on the realisation of Boris Johnson's ambition and how he'll handle his poisoned chalice; the Jacobins are now in charge and the next hundred days will be... eventful. Plus a few reflections on the European election and on the EU top jobs.
Chris is joined by Jason Knoll who teaches high school students in Verona, Wisconsin. His particular interest is the European Union, and he brings his particular point of view to the podcast in a discussion about Trump, Johnson, populism, and grassroots politics.
CakeWatch - Episode 59: Rentrée
04/09/2019
After a long absence, Steve is back co-hosting the podcast and here we all are again: parliament versus executive. Does Cummings have a grand strategy? Or is Johnson flying by the seat of his pants and about to crash? After a long evening watching Parliament TV, we catch up with each other and wonder where this shaggy dog story will go next.
CakeWatch - Episode 5: Explicit in Welsh
07/03/2018
Chris and Steve discuss Theresa May's deluxe Mansion House cake I mean speech
Johnson says he has a deal that might fly but he won't show it to anyone yet, because it's too soon isn't it? [turns head, stares at camera]. / Is the EU losing patience? Xavier Bettel looks as if he has. ... Plus we have a half-hearted go at a making verbal Jon Worth flowchart on the fly - what are the scenarios from here on out? And - we can dream - what happens the morning after revocation?
Chris is back from Tashkent with a head full of musings. How badly does the EU want the UK to leave? Quite badly, he thinks. Steve sort of agrees. But this week's unicorn chaser is the imminent collapse of the Bannonite populist project on both sides of the Atlantic. Steve sort of disagrees.
CakeWatch - Episode 63: Honey Badger
22/10/2019
Boris Johnson, his so-called new deal, and the wholesale attack on citizens' rights. For light relief we join four Remainers Now standing in the rain outside the European Commission's headquarters and hear from them why they've made the journey to Brussels and what they want to achieve here. This podcast was brought to you by a large gin and tonic.
We look at the ethics of tactical voting in the 2019 general election, and why you should hold your nose and vote for a candidate from a party you might not endorse as a party of government.
Cakewatch Live! (not live) - we leave the podcast dungeon and put the show on the road to hear the Brussels Bubble share its views on cake, cakeism, and whether Brexit will actually happen.
Alviina Alametsä is a Green Party MEP from Finland. She took up her seat only in February 2020, after it was vacated by a departing UK MEP.
Chris and Garvan Walshe catch up on how they handled lockdown, what to expect next, and what has changed since they last recorded the podcast together, in November 2018. Just as it did two years ago, the Northern Ireland backstop features heavily in Lie of the Week. Also, will the Conservative Party have the good sense to ditch its current leader?
This week, Steve and Chris mullet over the draft Withdrawal Agreement and carp on about the transition deal.
Enjoy this (mostly) pre-recorded special in which Steve and Chris discuss European and UK federalism, EU democracy, and Westminster exceptionalism. Listen to the very end for a very special Easter Egg.
CakeWatch - Episode 9: Overrated Eurotrash
19/04/2018
We're back after the Easter break with vox pops featuring two Remainer megastars, free movement and Windrush, and a roundup of where things stand as we start the summer term.
Investigate cakeism: the philosophy of having your cake and eating it, as preached and practised by the British government in its approach to Brexit.
Chris Kendall, EU official and host of the wonderfully informative Cakewatch podcast. Cakewatch is aimed at combatting the British exceptionalism and misconceptions held by both Remainers and Brexiteers. In this discussion we get into the concept of Cakeism, the reforms that both Britain and Europe might undertake post-Brexit, the concepts of Federalism and Subsidiarity, and much, much more.
It’s a special edition of Remainiacs as we welcome our brothers-in-podcasting STEVE BULLOCK AKA @GuitarMoog (left) and CHRIS KENDALL AKA @ottocrat of the brilliant Cakewatch podcast for what the world is already calling the Yalta Conference of Remain.
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